OT - Today's Life Lesson Learned

Lynn Patrick

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We have all heard "I don't know how I found the time for work! Since I retired I am busier than ever!"
Today I realized why that is true. Here is my usual daily routine:
1. After waking but before getting up decide on one or two projects to center on for the day.
Mine today was to dismount a shredded trailer tire using my floor-mounted HF Tire Changer, then finish putting the 9N together.
2. Once in the shop gather all tools for the first job.
I broke both beads, mounted the tire on the tire changer, sprayed the tire bead w/WD40 & pulled the top bead off, then flipped the tire & started on the bottom bead.
3. Immediately after beginning carefully watch all tools and paraphernalia being used because something is about to break.
Although the tire changer was anchored to the cement floor with 8 anchors and lags, they all pulled loose with only about 6" of tire rolled off.
4. Spend the rest of the day fixing it.
I drilled all 8 holes in the cement larger and deeper, then installed 8 larger anchors and lags.
5. If time remains, proceed to project 2.
I did get one part put back on the 2N!
 
You need one of these (gray unit on the left). Paid $300 for it 14 years ago and never looked back. Have changed at least a couple hundred tires on it. It isn't even bolted to the floor.
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You need some wedge anchors.
Or epoxy anchors.
Those zinc sleeves and lags are too soft and only expand so much and stop no matter how tight the lag is.
 
I had my HF tire changer bolted to a piece of plywood big enough for me to stand on. But the problem was on old stif tire trying to pry off the bead, jerked on the prybar and tore my rotator culf. DO NOT TRY ON ANY OLD STIF OR HEAVIER PLY TIRES. Was over 5 years after that before I could use my arm and that was after surgery about 8 months after it happened. Day I was supposed to se Dr about shoulder I was getting heart bypass. Never tried using it again. Cost me way more than if had taken all tires I used it on to shop.
 
that's not the equipment's fault. can't blame a piece of equipment if u try to do something your body isn't up to. that would be like saying no one should ever use a manual tire changer because a child would get hurt using it.

know your own limits.
 
What I am saying he was exceeding the limits of that tire changer by it pulling bolts out of floor. They are a very light duty changer and good for nothing but new 4 ply car tires. They will not do the work of the old manual tire changers shops used to have and thinking they will do it will get you in trouble one way or anouther. I was trying to exceed the changers capability and that is the reason I got hurt. DO NOT BUY ONE thinking it will change a implement tire, not worth the money. If he was not exceeding the limits of that chasnger he could have never pulled bolts out of concrete as any bolts that fit mounting holes in changer would have more hold power in concrete than mine did in that plywood when I dammaged my arm. I was guessing he was using an extension on the bar used to remove the tire for more leverage as I should have been trying to do.
 
This has been interesting to watch! I was merely saying "If you want a job to last all day have something break!" Fortunately, I enjoy a good discussion, even when it takes on a life of it's own!
But to answer some of the unasked questions, I had for years used this changer bolted to a pallet, but recently reinforced the way it bolted down & drilled it into the cement floor. My mistake was in using too light of anchors but they were what I had. The ones I am now using are much heavier & are actually the expanding bolt type, & I should not have said "lags" as they are not.
And no, I was not using any extension. At my age I enjoy doing the work myself, but also know my limits!
As to taking it to a shop, there is only one in this small town & every time I take a tire to them it costs at least $20 for the changing plus they always seem to find it "needs a new tube" for at least another $20. I have trouble paying way more than some tires are worth!
But keep up the discussion! I'm enjoying it!
 
"What I am saying he was exceeding the limits of that tire changer by it pulling bolts out of floor."

nonsense. he was exceeding the limits of the fasteners he chose, in combination with the surface, neither of which came from harbor freight.

"They are a very light duty changer and good for nothing but new 4 ply car tires. They will not do the work of the old manual tire changers shops used to have and thinking they will do it will get you in trouble one way or anouther. I was trying to exceed the changers capability and that is the reason I got hurt. DO NOT BUY ONE thinking it will change a implement tire, not worth the money."

nonsense again, i have owned one of these tire changers for 20+ years. i have unmounted dozens of tires with it. some were implement tires, but most were ancient car/truck tires that were abandoned on this property and ridiculously rusty. NONE were new car tires.

"If he was not exceeding the limits of that chasnger he could have never pulled bolts out of concrete as any bolts that fit mounting holes in changer would have more hold power in concrete than mine did in that plywood when I dammaged my arm."

BS. if he had exceeded the limits of the changer, he would have broken the changer. if i take mine off the pallet i mounted it on, and set it up on my lawn held in the dirt with tent stakes, i promise u i won't fantasize about how it's harbor freight's fault i did an inadequate job of fastening it down when it pulls out of the dirt.

to quote paul and gabriel barrere, "and you know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill."

harbor freight is not at fault, for either your issue or lynn's. at least lynn realizes that.
 
(quoted from post at 15:37:29 02/28/20) "What I am saying he was exceeding the limits of that tire changer by it pulling bolts out of floor."

nonsense. he was exceeding the limits of the fasteners he chose, in combination with the surface, neither of which came from harbor freight.

"They are a very light duty changer and good for nothing but new 4 ply car tires. They will not do the work of the old manual tire changers shops used to have and thinking they will do it will get you in trouble one way or anouther. I was trying to exceed the changers capability and that is the reason I got hurt. DO NOT BUY ONE thinking it will change a implement tire, not worth the money."

nonsense again, i have owned one of these tire changers for 20+ years. i have unmounted dozens of tires with it. some were implement tires, but most were ancient car/truck tires that were abandoned on this property and ridiculously rusty. NONE were new car tires.

"If he was not exceeding the limits of that chasnger he could have never pulled bolts out of concrete as any bolts that fit mounting holes in changer would have more hold power in concrete than mine did in that plywood when I dammaged my arm."

BS. if he had exceeded the limits of the changer, he would have broken the changer. if i take mine off the pallet i mounted it on, and set it up on my lawn held in the dirt with tent stakes, i promise u i won't fantasize about how it's harbor freight's fault i did an inadequate job of fastening it down when it pulls out of the dirt.

to quote paul and gabriel barrere, "and you know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill."

harbor freight is not at fault, for either your issue or lynn's. at least lynn realizes that.



HFJ, I agree with you, but don't you think that perhaps you are being a little unfriendly? Leroy usually has a different view but you still can disagree with him in a nice way.
 

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