Hesston 4755 4020

Will a 4020 run a 3x3 hesston baler

My brother pulls his new holland 3x3 with a 4840 with duals, he pulled it once with his Allis 7060? And said it wasn?t enough tractor. Think the baler jerked him around a bit.

I would not want to be driving it. LOL You would have the tail wagging the dog. Not enough weight to pull it safely.

I know from experience that a 3x4 baler (Hesston 4790) can put a 135 hp CaseIH Magnum on its knees. Granted, the 3x4 is much higher capacity baler than this 3x3 but with a lot less power, less weight, and fewer gears to choose from I would think that running one on a 4020 could turn into a slow, frustrating experience.

That?s what I was wondering about . I?ve been shoved sideways buy 4910 hesston balers on 8400 jd with fluid in the tires but that is way bigger machine than a 3x3 . What is the hp requirement of a 3x3

Flat ground 125-130 HP, on hills 150 HP plus. Friend had a JD 100 3x3 baler and pulled it with his JD 4640 with duals. He said on some hills it even pushed it around.

I dynoed 112hp at 540 rpm and the last time I had the pump worked on they turned it up 15%

Guess i better look for a big a bigger tractor and then think about a bigger baler I guess . A local guy around here baled straw for a lot of years with with a case ih about a 100 hp but I don?t know how he got along must have done pretty good because he ran it that way for about ten years

(quoted from post at 17:46:09 02/20/18) I know from experience that a 3x4 baler (Hesston 4790) can put a 135 hp CaseIH Magnum on its knees. Granted, the 3x4 is much higher capacity baler than this 3x3 but with a lot less power, less weight, and fewer gears to choose from I would think that running one on a 4020 could turn into a slow, frustrating experience.

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brendon, I remember in the Wheat Hall you show a movie with the Hesston prototypes of the 4800, and there was a 4320 pulling it trough a hay field.

Seems like you can find 4640 and 4840 tractors for less money than the smaller ones, likely because of the 1000pto. They ought to do it.

The original sales brochure for the 4800 said it required 125 hp

You must have a good memory! A 4320 would have its hands full with a 4800 but then again the
capacity expectations would probably have been lower than they are now. The speed of the 4800's
chain-driven plunger was relatively slow, too. From what I've been told by Hesston engineering
folks who where around back then is that a lot of the tractors they used for field testing were
"juiced up" to make sure that power wasn't the limiting factor when running prototypes.

Straw, especially waxy oat straw, can be lighter weight, slide easier, slice easier and be generally easier to bale than most hay. Baling small square bales of straw did not take as much power as baling hay.

Where can I find the video

up date here,,, itsa 3X4,, and the 8010AC @ little over 100 hp just really isn't enough tractor, I haven't tried it on the 7060.... yet...the 4840 handles it well..

for svcummins,, check out the owner manual,, it should have a minimum HP required, I really think a 4020 would struggle, even though it has enough HP to turn the machine,, it don't have enough weight to really 'handle' the baler. the tail would really wag the dog..

Check out those movies:

4240S with a Coex (french built) Hesston 4800: Much bigger and heavier than the 4755 baler.
Major difference is that the EU balers have brakes, which is really required on those machines (9.5 metric ton).

Pretty sure you can pull 4755 baler with a 4020 not any harder than a 4240S can pull an 4800. 4020 to be in good shape, solid hitch without play, ideally a ball hitch would be better,weights on the rear axle. Motor to do at least 100 PTO HP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUhTPcpjuo

On this one, in the middle, there is a IH 1255 with the DT358 motor pulling another Hesston 4800. 1255 is a great tractor, but hot 4020 with MW should not be that far. Problem with an 4020 MW turbo tractor is that it will overheat pretty good in the summer. 4320 has much bigger rad.

Sure it will make that tractor work, but they were meant for that, and I cannot care less for the painted up tractors that still have paint on the muffler (a 4020 Gen II muffler should be brown... from all the black smoke puffing 30 feets in the air!)
At the end, on flatland, you will never have issues to bale.

On hills, you need a 6030 or 5020 repowered for the weight, because pulling the baler up camn quickly use up all your power.
Going downhill on slippery straw or grass, the piston can jerk the tractor and you can go quickly downhill...
Thatìs why you need brakes on your baler.
Should not be that hard to put a semi trailer axle under it and replace air cylinder with hydraulic cylinder connecter to one of the SCVs, and have manually actuated brakes from the cab (Friend just did that on a US imported 4620 to haul 15T silage trailers SAFELY, as his tractor did not have yet the hydraulic brakes valve installed.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evZMLtYJzaI

Hesston says 90 hp the cnh dealer which sold
hesston balers painted in case ih color says 90 but
they recommend 100 everything I bale will be flat
ground my 4020 weighs 13,000 right now I would
think I would want duals and probably fluid in the
tires to handle the baler safely . I?m still on the fence
about what to do probably just depend on the
custom work I can get lined up

If 90 HP is all that is required,, well,,,OK.. but I think you will really appreciate a tractor with a CAB,,these things generate a lot of dust, dirt, and noise,,and a cab provides a place to keep the baler electronics out of the weather..