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New user: Ferguson TO 30 and TEA 20 Questions

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Reinhold90

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Hello, brand new here, although I've visited the forums before.

I have a few questions regarding my tractors and this seemed like the place to go.

First the TEA 20, this is regarding the draft control and hydraulics, they work great for me most of the time, but occasionally when I switch back and forth between say my (heavier) 2 bottom Ferguson plow and a (Lighter) carryall the draft control spring seems to loosen up and get jumpy but will usually tighten back up eventually and will occasionally repeat, any ideas?

Now the TO 30;I have just bought this tractor as a package deal with a nice 60" finish mower and a Spring tooth harrow all for $500. Problem:the block is cracked and I am by no means the richest 29 year old out there but would like to do something with it, do I have options outside of the factory engine? Should a look at building something custom, I think I could get my hands on a 3cyl DEUTZ fairly cheap. Or should I part it out? Any ideas?

Apologizing in advance for the long winded post.

Thank you.

Mark from Michigan.
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Hello. if it were me, I would look for a good block, or engine for your TO30. It will be
a different tractor than your T020, and in my opinion an improvement.
They are rebuildable, and there are a lot of recycling(wrecking) yards available.
If it is just the block on yours, I would suspect the components will transfer, If you have not worked
on tractors before, this would be a good project. If you have worked on them, it will be easy.
O.K. when you are in it maybe put on new rings. If you do not need it overnight, shipping can
be arranged at a reasonable price.
good luck. kris
 
If you have a Massey-Ferguson dealer nearby call their service department and see if they ?pin? TO30 blocks. If the rest of the motor is good and they can do it you may be able to rebuild for the price of new rings bearings and gaskets. This is an easy engine to work on. Plus we are here to help.
I currently have a block getting this job done, last two engines I did there cost me $250 per block to have it done. So far I have done three engines with this problem and all run great.
 
the Z 129 blocks are noted for cracking if the tractor was overheated. They can be repaired using a furnace brazing method. My original TO-30 block was cracked but not leaking and the lower end was worn but repairable. I used it as a core for a remanufactured short block in 2001 and I used it on our ranch from then until I sold it in January of 2018. It ran at 27 psi oil pressure hot or cold and at any rpm. It plowed the lanes in the winter, mowed, hauled the pipe trailer, etc and was still a strong runner when I sold it.

Don"t know where you are located but loo for an outfit that furnace brazes these blocks. Farmland tractor near Albany, OR was where I got mine but I"m sure there are others who do this repair because there were a lot of these blocks around. There is also a tension rod repair method that my original engine had on it and it was my understanding is that was factory authorized repair way back when.

Good Luck
 
Just a note.....you may be aware of...

The Ferguson TEA-20 was assembled in "Coventry England"......the Engine in the TEA-20 "Standard" has NO components that are the same as the USA made engine installed in the T0-20 and T0-30 in the USA.

Bob...Owner operator Ferguson TEA-20 and other colored Tractors......
 
To my knowledge, the only engines that will easily work in your TO30 would be the Continental Z120 (TO20) or Z129 (TO30). Anything else is probably not worth the hassle especially if you are on a budget. As noted, the Continental engines can be brazed or pinned and then rebuilt. I have one that was pinned and it has 40 lbs oil pressure and going strong 10 years after. Of course if you can find an engine that doesn't require a rebuild, that probably is your least expensive route. From the pics, it looks like you would have some good parts, if you go that direction.
 
i for sure would look at brazing the crack. Possibly could even heat up the block enough to weld the crack. Either way fixing the block would be much cheaper than replacing the engine, that is unless there are other issues with the engine?
 
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